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<ronny> |
sounds like its begging for a hg backend |
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<tux21b> |
hmm, how far are you with your prototype? :) |
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<ronny> |
tux21b: not far enough |
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<blackbird> |
tux21b: NO |
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<ronny> |
blackbird: no for what? |
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<blackbird> |
ronny: the epoch thing |
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<tux21b> |
sounds like you are sure about that |
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<blackbird> |
i'm sure that renames in a wiki are a terrible idea |
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<blackbird> |
there is just one system i know about that can handle renames at all and that is bazaar |
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<blackbird> |
and that only works because it's using internally different identifiers for files |
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<blackbird> |
and heck, i don't want *that* in a wiki |
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<ronny> |
i thinkg hg tracks enough data for the renames |
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<tux21b> |
blackbird, ok, then it's time that you come back, because i think our wiki is moving in a different direction ;) |
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<blackbird> |
tux21b: i can see that and i don't give a fuck |
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<blackbird> |
the wiki team is not listening to me anyways |
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<blackbird> |
i told them that their renaming procedure is crap since the early design stages of inyoka |
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<blackbird> |
can't say that any clearer |
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<tux21b> |
ok, i will talk with them once again... |
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<aa_> |
blackbird: what do you think of stacked object proxies? |
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<blackbird> |
aa_: what do they do? |
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<aa_> |
blackbird: pylons uses them instead of threadlocal to allow safe application compositing |
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<blackbird> |
i know *that*, but not *what* they actually do |
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<aa_> |
oh :) |
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<blackbird> |
some weird sys._getframe caller resolving magic? |
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<aa_> |
just a stack on the threadlocal as far as I can see |
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<aa_> |
http://pylonshq.com/docs/0.9.2/paste/registry.py.html?f=99&l=237#99 |
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<aa_> |
push/pop |
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<aa_> |
blackbird: might werkzeug's local stuff be interested in that? |
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<blackbird> |
no idea, is it useful? |
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<aa_> |
well, in a situation where you have >= 1 app/request/whatever at any one time, I think it's the only way that local can work |
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<aa_> |
blackbird: unless you can think of another way? |
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<aa_> |
sorry > 1 |
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<blackbird> |
no idea, haven't thought about it so far |
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<blackbird> |
i never have the situation where more than one app feeds to the same local object |
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<aa_> |
yeah the mythincal "application composition" |
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<aa_> |
everyone wants it, but no one ever used it |
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<CIA-41> |
TextPress: mitsuhiko default * 429:5cbd59ba3579 /textpress/i18n/__init__.py: Fixed a few timezone related bugs (god i hate timezones) |
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<tux21b> |
blackbird, if you still need some things to do during the holiday, you could also rewrite some parts of inyoka to sa 0.5 simultaneously ;) |
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<prencher> |
aa_ - wow.. dark knight was amazing |
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<hads> |
I enjoyed it |
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<blackbird> |
dark night? |
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<blackbird> |
*knight |
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<prencher> |
the dark knight.. batman |
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<aa_> |
prencher: surprisingly good wasn't it |
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<prencher> |
i wouldn't say suprisingly |
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<prencher> |
batman begins set a pretty damn high bar |
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<blackbird> |
ah. batman |
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<prencher> |
and they topped it |
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<aa_> |
yeah, but this was much better than the last few |
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<prencher> |
the joker was just spot on perfect |
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<aa_> |
absolutely brilliant |
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<aa_> |
joker made it |
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<aa_> |
so dark |
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<aa_> |
so pathetic |
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<aa_> |
so mean |
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<prencher> |
dissappearing pencil |
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<aa_> |
ahah |
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<aa_> |
spoilers! |
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<prencher> |
hardly a spoiler :P |
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<CIA-41> |
TextPress: mitsuhiko default * 430:335c7e1936a1 /textpress/ (4 files in 4 dirs): archive show better translated titles now |
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<blackbird> |
you can spoil it, i won't watch it ;) |
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<aa_> |
ok, well there's this really rich guy, who, for some reason enjoys dressing up like a bat and kicking the holy sh* out of bad guys |
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<hads> |
heh |
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<CIA-41> |
TextPress: mitsuhiko default * 431:a7f216ba19d9 /textpress/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Translated untranslated page in websetup |
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<blackbird> |
mq: ping |
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<s0undt3ch> |
dam, got TP downgraded enough to work |
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<CIA-41> |
TextPress: mitsuhiko default * 432:1728394ab3c9 /textpress/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Added a missing translatable string |
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<blackbird> |
s0undt3ch: the unstable state of textpress will soon go away :) |
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<blackbird> |
i'm quite happy with the latest tip |
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<s0undt3ch> |
blackbird: I know, I just need to first update it localy, never on a live blog |
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<s0undt3ch> |
:) |
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<blackbird> |
does anyone know when mq was online the last time? |
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<delroth> |
hey mitsuhiko, here ? I just fixed a bug in the Pygments C lexer, could you commit the patch to the mercurial ? :) |
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<delroth> |
(ticket #352, http://dev.pocoo.org/projects/pygments/ticket/352) |
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<birkenfeld> |
delroth: we're already sleeping |
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<delroth> |
:D ok |
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<birkenfeld> |
tomorrow! |
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<birkenfeld> |
delroth: you like playing bridge? |
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<delroth> |
I don't, birkenfeld, why this question ? |
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<birkenfeld> |
we're looking for a 4th player ^^ |
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<delroth> |
:D |
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<asmodai> |
birkenfeld: I've always wanted to learn that |
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<birkenfeld> |
asmodai: it seems it's not hard |
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<aa_> |
asmodai: I plugged firephp into glashammer |
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<aa_> |
asmodai: but I haven't committed it because I am not usre I am doing the right approach |
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<maddiin> |
hi aa_, could you please update the hg repo of glashammer? |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: yeah, right away |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: done |
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<maddiin> |
aa_: thanks, glashammer looks really appealing. just have to look how i can switch between sqla-versions, i am working with 0.5 |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: the glashammer db stuff is just almost copied from textpress, and I think yesterday mitsuhiko ported textpress to 0.5, so maybe just create a bundle and use copy-paste? |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: glashammer core is totally db independent, so you can support both 0.4 and 0.5 in the same framework (not in the same app though :)) |
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<maddiin> |
aa_: alright, i´ll go and play now :) |
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<delroth> |
hey birkenfeld, now that you're no more playing bridge, could you look if my patch is ok ? :) (http://dev.pocoo.org/projects/pygments/ticket/352) |
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<CIA-41> |
Pygments: gbrandl trunk * 614:566f2124b042 /pygments/lexers/compiled.py: #352: some C lexer fix. |
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<birkenfeld> |
delroth: done |
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<delroth> |
ty ;) |
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<welterde> |
maddiin: you also could give virtualenv a try if you want to run both versions at the same time |
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<CIA-41> |
Pygments: gbrandl trunk * 615:238cfc1615fe /pygments/lexers/ (_mapping.py templates.py): #350: fix a copy/paste error. |
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<maddiin> |
welterde: thanks, but for the sake of simplicity i´ll skip that for now |
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<maddiin> |
aa_: i played with the notes example and adapted it to work without the sqla_db bundle. if you like, i could add form validation and send it to you so you have the notes example with and without the sqla_bundle. |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: that would be awesome, thanks |
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<rocky> |
anyone notice latest textpress hg doesn't properly startup an instance? |
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<rocky> |
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/81056/ |
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<rocky> |
perhaps textpress requires sqlalchemy > 0.4 ? |
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<Tik-Tok> |
rocky: yes, mitsuhiko checked in changes last night that require 0.5 |
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<rocky> |
ah ok, thanks |
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<rocky> |
Tik-Tok: everytime i save a form it redirects me to some bizarre url, have you seen that? |
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<rocky> |
i'm trying to figure out how textpress importing stuff works, any pointers? |
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<ronny> |
rocky: you mean plugin-loading? |
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<ronny> |
rocky: thats kinda magical in order to allow different plugin versions at the same time in different instances |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: how's it going? |
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<maddiin> |
aa_: woke up about 10mins ago from sleep, little tired today. but its pretty much done |
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<maddiin> |
aa_: i will eat something and finish it later |
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<maddiin> |
aa_: noticed some things, first the documentation for serving static files says "creates an url rule for <name>/shared" |
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<maddiin> |
aa_: and an example below shows "url_for('shared/files'," which really is 'files/shared'...(but i think it should be 'shared/files' anyway) |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: you are right, it should be shared/name |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: the documentation is right, ti's the code and docstring that is wrong |
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<rocky> |
anyone know if anyone's working on a textpress import plugin for importing rss/atom feeds as entries? |
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<aa_> |
nafaik |
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<ronny> |
aa_: isnt the blogger importer atom based? |
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<ronny> |
rocky: btw, why do you want to abuse a blog as planet? |
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<rocky> |
huh? |
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<aa_> |
ronny: yes |
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<asmodai> |
Tik-Tok: So his holiday is over? ;) |
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<rocky> |
ronny: sorry i have no idea what you're talking about |
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<ronny> |
rocky: importing rss feeds sounds like a planet (or do you just export another blog as whole into a feed? |
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<ronny> |
(there is a importer for wordpress and for blogger) |
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<rocky> |
ronny: i have an old blog i'm trying to migrate to TextPress and it's a very custom-style blog so i figured the easiest way to migrate the old posts was via rss/atom feed |
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<aa_> |
ronny: I seem to remember writing an importer is not that hard |
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<aa_> |
oops |
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<aa_> |
rocky: ^^ |
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<ronny> |
rocky: take a look at the importers that are allready includded, its not that hard |
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<maddiin> |
aa_: the slqadb bundle is the only one with a setup_bundle function, the others are still named setup_app. |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: if you want to make changes like this I am happy to review patches and if they are ok, to give you write access |
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<maddiin> |
aa_: ok, will do. i feel like i am still sleeping, i come back to you later |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: ok |
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<aa_> |
ronny: so I see you started hacking on glashammer |
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<aa_> |
maddiin: Also I fixed those things with shared files, in bzr head so update |
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<ronny> |
aa_: did i? |
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<aa_> |
ronny: yes |
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<ronny> |
where, when? |
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<ronny> |
was i drunk ? |
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<aa_> |
I have your signature here in blood |
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<aa_> |
you must have been drunk |
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<ronny> |
sounds more like weed |
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<birkenfeld> |
ronny: good news |
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<ronny> |
birkenfeld: url? |
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<birkenfeld> |
ronny: http://bazaar-vcs.org/ |
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<ronny> |
birkenfeld: should i get myself a whiskey? |
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<birkenfeld> |
perhaps -- I myself like whiskey |
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<ronny> |
birkenfeld: where is that newsß |
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<birkenfeld> |
the URL is not the news |
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<apollo13> |
hmm the bazaar site is one of the good looking moinmoin installation |
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<ronny> |
birkenfeld: url to the stats? |
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<birkenfeld> |
ronny: there are no stats yet |
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<birkenfeld> |
the good news is that bazaar hasn't won yet :) |
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<apollo13> |
birkenfeld: won what? |
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<ronny> |
birkenfeld: sounds like the comunity is still in need to see how crappy it is |
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<ronny> |
birkenfeld: btw, what do you mean by hasnt wont yet? |
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<birkenfeld> |
I haven't done the stats |
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<apollo13> |
birkenfeld: you aren't druk? |
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<birkenfeld> |
do I sound like I am? |
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<apollo13> |
No, but what are the news? |
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<ronny> |
birkenfeld: at least you are confusing me |
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<apollo13> |
what are you talking about? |
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<ronny> |
it sounds like there was allmost something horrible |
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<birkenfeld> |
I just tried to be proactive |
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<apollo13> |
oO |
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<ronny> |
a simple "no stats yet" wouldnt have got me that fired up |
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<birkenfeld> |
that was exactly why I did that |
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<ronny> |
you want to depress me out of brothering you for the stats? |
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<apollo13> |
could someone explain me what you are talking about? |
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<rocky> |
ugh... the texpress api for adding tags is very slow-going ... i'm wanting to add like 7 new tags to a post and i gotta write one tag, hit add, wait for refresh, write another tag, hit add, wait for refresh, etc |
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<ronny> |
birkendfeld wanted to do some stats showing how bad bzr is, he just didnt find time to do them yet |
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<ronny> |
rocky: that one sucks |
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<ronny> |
rocky: feel like fixing it ? |
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<rocky> |
well even if it accepted a line of comma-separated tags |
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<rocky> |
hm |
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<rocky> |
i guess i could take a whack at it |
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<dennda> |
rocky: please do |
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<Tik-Tok> |
asmodai: sorry, stepped away for a bit. Yes, it appears he came down from the mountain bearing new changes etched in stone tablets. ;) |
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<dennda> |
that already annoyed me :) |
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<rocky> |
hehe |
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<ronny> |
rocky: i'd love to get a csv line + autocomplete |
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<dennda> |
csv line? |
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<ronny> |
comma separated value |
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<dennda> |
ahh ok |
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<rocky> |
ronny: that'd be nice, sure... but since this is my first bit of work ... a simple csv line will have to suffice ;) |
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<rocky> |
course i gotta get used to this hg thing |
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<dennda> |
just a csv line is fine, imho |
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<birkenfeld> |
ronny: exactly |
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<rocky> |
so if i'm gonna do work like this, i "hg clone" textpress-main and then do i just work in that one or do i do some sort off branch off of that |
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<rocky> |
? |
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<rocky> |
sorry, my python skills are decent, but i lack any sort of mecurial know-how |
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<ronny> |
rocky: you can do anything that suits you |
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<ronny> |
rocky: be sure to take a look at the mq extension |
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<rocky> |
btw i think i already submitted a patch for fixing up setup.py and such to make textpress more eggable |
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<Tik-Tok> |
Has anyone read the O'Reilly sqlachemy book? I can't tell which version it covers. |
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<apollo13> |
Tik-Tok: 4.something |
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<Tik-Tok> |
Tx |
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<rocky> |
ah yes... i did http://dev.pocoo.org/projects/textpress/ticket/74 |
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<apollo13> |
Tik-Tok: at least if I remember correctly, I don't have the book |
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<Tik-Tok> |
OK, thanks. Seems unlikely that it would cover 5.x yet |
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<apollo13> |
but looking at this: http://www.sqlalchemy.org/news.html#item_2 I think I am correct |
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<apollo13> |
yeah |
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